Game Editor 3D: Just a crazy idea?

[makslane]

Instead of using Blender game engine, i suggest :
- Crystal space
-(maybe you should inspire yourself of Unity3D as example)
- Irrilicht + Ogre(Ogre for render)
- Clanlib
- MobileDragon

As I can see now, the native blender game engine (Ketsji) is not the only engine can be used.
There are exporters, for example, to the Ogre engine.
So, one option is to work on an exporter for a 3D Game Editor engine.

[krenisis]

Ok its mind blowing to me that Game Editor is not more popular because its much more user friendly than anything I ever tried. So my goal now is to make GE more popular. That will draw more people into buying and developing GE. What we need is to make a freeware game that will blow up and become popular. So we need to make a full game , which I already started Hblade and Mr.jolteon are going to help me. I need help from bee-ant and DST , because they hold the mystical art of rotation and scalling. Also if any other people have been working on 3D , your help will be appreciated . The basic concept is 3D game in which your actor is moving forward , not up , i mean forward. Once the full game is done I will upload the compiled version to rapidshare and distrubute the link . Then all of us will go to different computer forums and spread the game .

[Bee-Ant]

Whether you want to make it 3D or not,
I just request you to keep the 2D system...

I need help from bee-ant and DST, because they hold the mystical art of rotation and scalling

Actually, we both learned that basic code from Fuzzy.
3 of us made some personal forum and discuss anything there.
Unfortunately, Fuzzy doesn't use GE anymore...
Unfortunately again, DST seems to be very busy, I haven't saw him for months...

[akr]

I suggest we stay at least for some time with the 2D engine. Its a really cool product and much better than eg game salad.
There are much more 3D environments on the market which are hard to compete with.
So the iphone port will be available soon. Developers can use it to deploy to iphone and ipad. Thats a huge market which is
6b today and will be 13b in 2012. Games are the top selling apps.

Cheers
Andreas

[makslane]

But we need to have good developers (like you) to work in Game Editor evolution!

[makslane]

I suggest we stay at least for some time with the 2D engine

Instead keep trying to develop a new interface for Game Editor, may be can be better use the interface of the Blender for Game Editor 2D, keeping the Game Editor engine.

[Thanx]

Hey, it was the Jurassic age, the last time I posted...
Sorry, I might never really return... though maybe this summer, for a month, when I'll be struck into bed by a surgery.

I have no reputation, but I must say, that I'm strongly in favor of GE recreated through Blender 3D. I have personal experience with Blender, and it is very advanced, and very usable for this purpose. It is constantly updated, and has no restrictions whatsoever. It's only problem, is it's SO advanced, that the learning curve is only favorable, if you put all your energy into it... I never have, and never really mastered the thing, but I could/can model quite a few things.

But it supports many image and sound formats, like GE, and gives all the control needed. In my opinion, we also must maintain the 2d part of our tool, which I suggest, could be done, by creating prisms in the 3d space, their top and bottom sides forming boundaries of the displayed image, and the hight of the prism allowing for collision detection, the camera shooting right from above. It also opens the way for multiple cameras, which I remember, was once a notable question/feature request. It also may allow for zooming the game itself in and out. And there are ways to do lighting without lights, making the 3d-ness be unnoticed.

About the interface, I think Blender's is brilliant, and the idea of non overlapping panels would be great, and is also simple, but I'd recommend doing whatever is easier to code through Blender's C/C++ or Python.

That's all I can say about that topic... I'm sad I can't be there at the development of the new GE, but I guess you all here have all the capabilities without me anyway.

Good luck!

[makslane]

Independent of the interface used, the idea is keep the game creation simple (at least for 2D)

[krenisis]

Just join in the 3D creators club!! Right here me,hblade,bee-ant,mr.jolteon(when his computer gets fixed) and skydereign. We have done some really good work and gotten some results. Iam going to bug makslane later to add some code once we really have gotten into it . We just starting and all had personal reason why its been slow but its going to pick-up soon i promise. DST we need you also!!

[Hblade]

I think it might be possible to render 3D objects, (.3ds) inside of a Canvas Actor with lots and lots of code. You first have to have it READ the .3ds file, create the variables, and create 3D arrays, then somehow read the colors of the texture, not the texture it's self, but place the colors in the order pixel by pixel, each pixel is a part of the 3D array. A crazy idea, (And may take a bunch of code), but it probably could work.
However, it wouldn't be able to be bent, since Game Editor doesn't support image manipulation yet.

[savvy]

didnt i say about this a while ago?
DST said that it was impossible and it was best to just go with C++

[DBGames]

i only read the original post, but i think this seems like a very bad idea, i think blenders market area would over run ge and like some sorta government take us over...OR the more likely scenario is GE and 3D JUST DONT MIX!!! when i think of ge (lots) i currently and wish to never imagen 3d... i think 2d, its simpler, implementing blenders way of codeing and ge's (AGES!!!), plus, some of the most addicting games (yes, theres a cross-reference) are infact 2d, lets perfect the waay we make 2d, and then go 3d.

its like this, you have a building thats not finished, but you start painting anyways...

EDIT: finished reading, im still behind what i said.

[savvy]

you could just have a seperate program, that would solve the problem there.
keep GE a 2D program, and make a 3D one which is GC (game creator) or something.

[schnellboot]

you could just have a seperate program, that would solve the problem there.
keep GE a 2D program, and make a 3D one which is GC (game creator) or something.

or just GE 3D XD

[juansimat]

you could just have a seperate program, that would solve the problem there.
keep GE a 2D program, and make a 3D one which is GC (game creator) or something.

or just GE 3D XD

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